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Old 03-12-2009, 03:22 PM   #97 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by ErictheCartoonist View Post
This has been a rather helpful guide (most helpful I've ever read anyway). But there is one little question I just want to be sure about: Is it true that Pokemon that receive experience get EVs anyway? Like Pokemon that are holding Exp. Share get some EV points? I know I read that the EVs are not split up between the Pokemon but they do get some number of EV points. Is that true?

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Yes a pokemon with EXP Share gets the EV's too. The EV's don't split up... it's just that the pokemon with EXP Share can't hold a Power Item to get more EV's.

So a better thing to do is have it in your first slot with Power Item and perhaps Pokerus, then switch to another pokemon and it gets the full amount of EV's that pokemon can produce (the one you killed).
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Old 03-17-2009, 05:29 PM   #98 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by The Mole View Post
Basics of EV training.


Ever notice when you defeat the same pokemon over and over again, and when you level up you see that you gained +4 or more in a certain stat?Well that my friends is EV training.A Pokemon can have a maximum of ''510'' EV's, and a pokemon can have up to 255 EV's in a certain stat.Now that doesn't mean if you get 255 EV's in special attack of a pokemon that it will get +255points in that stat.
No no no, to get +1 in special attack, you'll need ''4'' EV's, thus allowing your pokemon to get an incredible +63 in special attack ( or other stats depending wich one you're EV training on) then it would've if it hadn't been EV trained --> 255 / 4 = ~63ev's. EV Training is fully essential to max out 2 stats, but its up to you to decide if you want to spread your EV's in all stats : all stats COULD have 85 EV's (510/6) thus getting you +21 in all stats! (85 / 4 ~21 Ev's)


NOTE: 252 is the maximum effectiveness for EVs in any given stat, as the last 3 are wasted.

510 is the max, and only 508 is divisible by 4, so you have at least 2 EVs wasted.
But if you plan to max two stats, 252 is maximum, and you have 6 points leftover for one stat point.

this may not seem like a lot, but it could make a huge difference.
for instance charizard with odd hitpoints can switch into stealth rock twice. with even hitpoints he will die on the second switch. that extra EV can change a pokes hitpoints into odd.
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There are NUMEROUS factors that could speed up EV training, so I'll tell you them in category:

1)THE POWER ITEMS

Power items are by far the MOST essential items to speed up EV training.
It gives you a Grand Total of +4 EV's when you kill a pokemon ( excluding the EV's from the pokemon itself).So if I fought a wild Magikarp ( +1 EV in speed) , when I beat it I would get 5 EV's instead of ''1''! There, I just sped up EV training by a decent amount. Instead of killing 255 MAgikarps ( for speed only, I would only have to kill 51 !). See? That's what I call a Need for Speed.


2)THE ULTIMATE POKERUS

Pokerus is a non-harmfull virus.. blah blah blah .We know! But what does it actually do?

The Pokerus, believe it or not, DOUBLES the amount of EV's gained after beating 1 Pokemon. So let's go back to our good friend Magikarp ( Let's say I DON'T have the Power Item), after defeating him with my UBER caterpie, I would get 2 EV's (1 * 2 = 2). There, instead of killing 255 Magikarps, I only have to kill 127 ( Cause 252 is the last number dividable by 4 {252/4 = 63}, meaning 3 Ev's are left behind). Just put the remaining 3 EV's in that stat so you don't screw up things, so 127 * 2EV's per magikarp = 254 EV's and you are done EV Training for the speed stat.

Now let's make things more funner, what if I added the power item for speed.
So I'll give you the UBER equation:
(( 1 EV {Magikarp} + 4 EV's {Power Item})) * 2 { From POKERUS} =10EV'S!


OMG you say? Of course! That means I only have to kill 26 Magikarps to finish EV training in speed!! Do this for the other STAT (S), but defeat a different pokemon cause magikarp gives +1 speed EV's.



3)THE MACHO BRACE

Yes it is very Macho, just like me!

What macho Brace does is very simple, it DOUBLES the EV's you get from defeating a pokemon. Let's use magikarp again cause we all love to torture it!

If you defeat ONE Magikarp, it gives you 1 EV, Macho Brace DOUBLES that to make it 2EV's ( 1 * 2 = 2 EV's)

To speed things up we infect our buddy with pokerus

UBER Equation:
(1 EV {Magikarp}) * 2 { Macho Brace) * 2 {Pokerus} = 4 EV's from one magikarp! 4 EV's = +1 speed point. That means you only have to beat 63 Magikarps to finish your EV training in speed.

OVERALL: I SUGGEST POWER ITEM {IF YOU HAVE} WITH POKERUS .



4)THE DRUGZ


Yes the Vitamins that are so expensive you would kill to get your hands on.
ONLY USE vitamins on UNTOUCHED EV's of a certain stat from a pokemon.
So let's say you got a bagon, how many vitamins for attack should I give it?
EACH vitamin gives you an amazing '10' EV's! Though you're only allowed to use vitamins untill you reach 100 EV's. So 10 vitamins ( 99990 $) should do the trick.

Now you're EV training in speed, so you're only missing 155 EV's for Speed
(255 - 100 = 155)

Use you're best option for EV training: POWER ITEM + POKERUS combo.

We know with THAT combo we will get 10 EV's per magikarp, so you only have to kill 16 Magikarps and you're done EV training for SPEED!
Just a few magikarps to finish EV training, takes about 10 minutes!

Basically grab an UNTOUCHED pokemon, feed it vitamins, make it have pokerus, give it the power item, and in NO TIME you'll be finished with 1 stat. Do the SAME method for the other STAT (S).


5)THE BERRIEZ


What if you accidently screwed up your EV's? (Instead of HP you put them in Attack).

Do not worry my friend, there are 6 Berries that REDUCE EV's by 10 EV's PER berry! Use the one that reduces HP.

How to use the berries:
If your Pokemon has over 100 EV's wich you want to get rid off ( let's say it had 160 EV's):
First, just use ONE berry, that will AUTOMATICALLY reduce your EV's down to 100 no matter how much you have.
After that, use 10 more berries since each berry reduce 10 EV's.
No matter if your pokemon had 255 EV's, only 11 berries would wipe them all out.


THAT'S HOW TO EV TRAIN!!

Originally Posted by Rayquaza911
The power anklet is the only thing that works with a magikarp since it gives speed.. The power bracer is used for attack, power lens for sp. attack, power bracer i think for defense.. i forget the others and i dont have my ds with me.. decent though. just fix those typos k?
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Old 11-15-2009, 07:29 AM   #101 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Soundwave View Post
The power anklet is the only thing that works with a magikarp since it gives speed.. The power bracer is used for attack, power lens for sp. attack, power bracer i think for defense.. i forget the others and i dont have my ds with me.. decent though. just fix those typos k?
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Battling Magikarp with the anklet may be the most efficient use but all power items always deliver EVs in the given (anklet/speed bracer/attack etc) stat regardless of what you battle

Using power items and battling Magikarp is 1 way of training Little Cup Pokemon and then using EV reducing berries to delete unwanted speed EVs (gained from the Magikarp)

Its important that this works because battling low level Magikarp delivers the least experience meaning that you can keep your Pokemon below level 5 (a requirement for Little Cup)
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^ What BIM said.
No matter what Pokemon you fight, you always gain the +4 EVs based on the power item you had, excluding the EVs from the pokemon itself... I don't see anything wrong. I am implying the Power Item that increases Speed EVs on the magikarp example (Anklet in this case), but if some don't see that I apologize, since you're the first one...
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