Should Nintendo go the way of the Sega? (a num. list on pro's if they did)

[Darth_1978]

Originally Posted by Fox Well the only reason why the Wii got so many sales was the motion controls which Sony first thought of around the time of one year after the PS2 was released. Nintendo stole an idea and just made whatever they could out of it and it turned into an alright controller but it helped them get back in the game,but unfortunately unless they can think of something better soon the system will die very quickly. The only reason why Microsoft and Sony are behind was because they're systems had a slow start but unlike the Wii, those systems can fix problems with updates and make the system better. There are also plenty of add ons to go along with that. I have seen many professional gamers talk about how the Wii can't last much longer at this rate because the other two will catch up and run it over. Nintendo has lots of money thanks to the Wii and I think the only thing it was worth was to get a boost in sale for Nintendo which it did. Now its up to Nintendo to make a newer, better system and if they can do that then the other two will most likely fall, that is if Nintendo gets their heads out of their asses.

First off unless you have proof that sony had motion sensing controls before nintendo and can prove they stole it, drop that crap cause it's pathetic.

Second, I've been a gamer a long time, since atari. And let me tell you the Wii is not and will not be considered a bad console. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's bad. Just not your thing, so don't ruin for everyone else just because you don't like it.

The only real mess up nintendo had was the Virtual Boy. It was a good idea but ahead of it's time and should have been in color.

And if you feel a game system has to have High Definition to be good maybe you should take a trip down gaming history lane and see what some true champion games were like and those babies didn't need HD to be awesome.

[Friik]

It will never happen!
they're just 2 powerful.

I hope not 2 C that in my lifetime.

[Pi_V3.14]

It won't happen at the time being. Despite how the Xbox stands and how the Wii stands, Nintendo still holds the balls of the gaming industry and are no way in the same position Sega had been.

Tricourage this isn't a stupid question, how Nintendo stands, it however would be stupid for them to act. But to think of the idea of if it should happen it's completely reasonable.

However, like I said Nintendo is in no sore spot, they are still standing successful, and like I think Shaun said, there's such a diversity of gaming on each console each one can stand rather well not affecting the others. Bringing for the most part good success to everybody.

So we won't see this in the coming generation, and probably not in the next, do I think it would happen? Only if Nintendo chooses to lag behind hardware related, and that finally starts taking its tole.

Fox, you're sounding totally biased and ignorant, please be sensible and not idiotic.

[TRICOURAGE]

Originally Posted by Claus* Yeah. Wii is ok, but it just isn't for me. You say UMD fails? I personally love the UMD idea for the PSP, plus you can watch movies on the go. And for the Xbox RROD, it has warranty for 3 years, so that's nothing to worry about.

Thats some of the problem with this critiscism I think. Many people at the age most people on this site are at, get kind of tired of the way the wii works and want more. So they turn to the other systems.

So I want the next person to post to keep in mind not your own opinion, but something based on fact that you have seen.

[Fox]

Originally Posted by tricourage Look, the wii is not dieng as fast as everyone says it is. It has slowed down due to a lack of games but still. It has a big following and is not going to be gone soon. And even if sony used it first, they didnt use it the way Nintendo has. Which makes them seem pretty stupid in my opinion. They had the idea and trashed it out. And now we have the wii, a big hit. Also keep in mind I dont know how they used it, cause I was unaware at that time, so if they used it and it was a fail, ignore the last paragraph. And Nintendo is fine with the system they have right now. Now I'll tell you that I want them to make a system like the gamecube was for the 64. An update in graphics. Sony and Microsoft wouldnt die then, but the wii would be selling again. Still, Nintendo has too big a following and will not go to third party. Sony and Microsoft would first in my opinion. And though FC are ignoring, Nintendo has a "family" inveronment. Meaning they want to keep people safe and crap like that. So we have FC.

Actually it is dying and its dying because of the lack of games. Nintendo doesn't want to make some of the games they have and other just don't want those games to be made because of demands Nintendo makes.

The motion controller was not ready yet, they put it away to make it better. Nintendo took it, gave it a bad look, made it cheap, uses batteries and not fully wireless. Nintendo has a fail controller and it was because there obviously wasn't enough time put into it. The Wii is fine for one more year, two max. I heard that The Conduit push the system to the limit and if that's so then it has no where to go but down.

Nintendo has a big following but a lot of them are ignorant of whats around then (in terms of gaming of course) which is the one reason it did so well.

[Pi_V3.14]

Totally agree with you on that. I myself hope that Nintendo will make a huge leap giving what people who have grown wanting hardware improvement. However, I think they are starting to. The DSi is introducing to its line a camera, music playing, improved web, and external memory. This has been obvious change for Nintendo, although they aren't quite making the use of it some of us would have hoped, it's good progress nonetheless.

What would I be hoping for for a next gen by Nintendo? Bothering to implement DVD playing just because it should be the norm, able to obtain information via USB (any game files, music, video whatever), quality of graphics (I'm not demanding HD, but I would like them to stay on level as best as they can), having full functionality for what they want to do (Motion+ is a great idea, but it still annoys me they'd rather release at a time when they knew they were going to make drastic control improvements midway through its life).

[Darth_1978]

Originally Posted by tricourage Thats some of the problem with this critiscism I think. Many people at the age most people on this site are at, get kind of tired of the way the wii works and want more. So they turn to the other systems. So I want the next person to post to keep in mind not your own opinion, but something based on fact that you have seen.

Well here's a fact for you then and shows how the wii doesn't suck and why nintendo wouldn't go third party like sega. In my area mind you, I have talked to and been at the walmart supercenters. They have plenty of PS3s and 360s. But they can't keep the Wii on the self. I have talked to sales associates at walmart's electronic department. They sell faster than they can get them on the selves. That's how good they sell. I can walk in anytime and ask for PS3 or 360 and no problem. Ask for wii and you get a sorry no can do sold out. They can't get enough of them.

And I have both a 360 and a Wii. Right now I've been playing Fallout 3. That game is awesome like a lot of 360 games but that doesn't mean I don't like my wii. It's still a great system and has great games.

Check out this site. I used this one for a project I did in my college class for a powerpoint presentation. It's the sales data for the consoles up to May. June hasn't been posted yet.

NPD Analysis DVDGuy’s Blog @ Digital Digest

Originally Posted by Fox Actually it is dying and its dying because of the lack of games. Nintendo doesn't want to make some of the games they have and other just don't want those games to be made because of demands Nintendo makes. The motion controller was not ready yet, they put it away to make it better. Nintendo took it, gave it a bad look, made it cheap, uses batteries and not fully wireless. Nintendo has a fail controller and it was because there obviously wasn't enough time put into it. The Wii is fine for one more year, two max. I heard that The Conduit push the system to the limit and if that's so then it has no where to go but down. Nintendo has a big following but a lot of them are ignorant of whats around then (in terms of gaming of course) which is the one reason it did so well.

Then show us a link to where you got your info of the "Sony motion Control". Otherwise drop it.

[Fox]

Originally Posted by Darth_1978 First off unless you have proof that sony had motion sensing controls before nintendo and can prove they stole it, drop that crap cause it's pathetic. Second, I've been a gamer a long time, since atari. And let me tell you the Wii is not and will not be considered a bad console. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's bad. Just not your thing, so don't ruin for everyone else just because you don't like it. The only real mess up nintendo had was the Virtual Boy. It was a good idea but ahead of it's time and should have been in color. And if you feel a game system has to have High Definition to be good maybe you should take a trip down gaming history lane and see what some true champion games were like and those babies didn't need HD to be awesome.

Why would I make it up? I have proof: Here you go. Its not just me that thinks this, I just said that some professional gamers even think the Wii will fail. People like you will be Nintendo's down fall. To know when to improve you have to make mistakes and if the fans don't say anything then no one will and thus it could lead to another console which doesn't do much of anything, including in terms of gameplay. You don't need HD, but it helps and so does a hard drive and many other things.

Originally Posted by Pi_V3.14 Fox, you're sounding totally biased and ignorant, please be sensible and not idiotic.

I don't know what your problem is but its probably that your too much of a fanboy like some other people to know a problem when you see it.


I'm kinda sick of getting ************************ from you people, stop pissing your pants, k?

[Darth_1978]

Originally Posted by Fox Why would I make it up? I have proof: Here you go. Its not just me that thinks this, I just said that some professional gamers even think the Wii will fail. People like you will be Nintendo's down fall. To know when to improve you have to make mistakes and if the fans don't say anything then no one will and thus it could lead to another console which doesn't do much of anything, including in terms of gameplay. You don't need HD, but it helps and so does a hard drive and many other things. I don't know what your problem is but its probably that your too much of a fanboy like some other people to know a problem when you see it. I'm kinda sick of getting ************************ from you people, stop pissing your pants, k?

Nice video and cool concept but not a motion sensing controller. That's more of a motion mapping technique. Those are still two different type of consepts. Of course sony's way would have been interesting too.

And I will agree with you on the hard drive part. But the SD card reader can now do up to 32 gb cards so that kinda fixes that problem. And just because some professionals don't like it who cares. It's their opinion not a fact. Sales figures are facts and the wii is a great selling product.

What the hell do you mean people like me. What kind of ignorant ass remark is that. Just because I stand by my opinion. Your opinion is the wii is a failure, yet you are trying to make it a fact when it's not, it's your opinion which is not shared by the majority.

And if anyone is pissing their pants it's you.

[Claus*]

Yeah. That's good proof Fox. But they didn't come out, cause' they thought it was going to fail. And another dumb thing, is, that who enjoys pointing to the screen and make it a frustration, when the Joystick makes it simple. Hmm, another thing is the graphics, yes, this is a Nintendo site, but the truth, everybody likes great graphics, which the PS3 and 360 provide. Why aren't you guys getting good titles like Assassins Creed? Because the Wii doesn't support that. All Nintendo gets is a rip-off of games.

[Fox]

Originally Posted by Darth_1978 Nice video and cool concept but not a motion sensing controller. That's more of a motion mapping technique. Those are still two different type of consepts. Of course sony's way would have been interesting too. And I will agree with you on the hard drive part. But the SD card reader can now do up to 32 gb cards so that kinda fixes that problem. And just because some professionals don't like it who cares. It's their opinion not a fact. Sales figures are facts and the wii is a great selling product. What the hell do you mean people like me. What kind of ignorant ass remark is that. Just because I stand by my opinion. Your opinion is the wii is a failure, yet you are trying to make it a fact when it's not, it's your opinion which is not shared by the majority. And if anyone is pissing their pants it's you.

lol. Whatever you say. If you haven't seen Sony's E3 this year then you would know its the same thing. Those SD cards cost a lot, most of the time more then hard drives, its just a nice for now. And they aren't "just" professionals, they are the people that have meetings with the heads of gaming, they bring you information and they have been doing it for a longer time having more knowledge about it then you do. The Wii sales great because people who weren't gamers bought it for the "fun" games and some of the hardcore games get left in the dust. Would you stop and see the problem already? Seriously.

Me? Piss my pants? No, its just a big fanboy. amirite?

[Darth_1978]

Originally Posted by Fox lol. Whatever you say. If you haven't seen Sony's E3 this year then you would know its the same thing. Those SD cards cost a lot, most of the time more then hard drives, its just a nice for now. And they aren't "just" professionals, they are the people that have meetings with the heads of gaming, they bring you information and they have been doing it for a longer time having more knowledge about it then you do. The Wii sales great because people who weren't gamers bought it for the "fun" games and some of the hardcore games get left in the dust. Would you stop and see the problem already? Seriously. Me? Piss my pants? No, its just a big fanboy. amirite?

I watched the video from E3. It's a use of motion sensing and motion mapping with the camera. It would be a very interesting way to play on the PS3 and I definitely would get a it and a PS3.

But to say that Nintendo stole the idea is like saying Final Fantasy ripped off Tolkien's Lord of The Rings. And there are other companies that can say they thought of it first before Sony or Nintendo. So they stole the idea is still crap.

And as for "hardcore games" getting left behind, who cares. If you want them do like i did just go out and get a 360. Don't sit there and put down a system that is still good.