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Turbopikachu · 08-30-2009, 10:48 AM

Character: Pikachu/Kirby

Opponent: Ike

Problem: Attack power. I try to land attacks on Ike, but if he uses an attack at the same time, whether I'm Pika or Kirby, his move will overpower mine and I will get sent flying. I want to know how to get Ike before he can get me. Also, I am failing to pull off any good Pika-chaingrabs on Ike. Somehow, he evades before I can start one.

Folm · 08-30-2009, 03:02 PM

Well of course the ike will over power you because his sword is a disjointed hitbox. Spam pika's Tjolt and make him approach. Lots of ikes like to approach with a double jumped Fair which gets so predicable so learn to punish that. Pika and Kirby have good recoveries so if the Ike gets off stage... dont let him back on, he has relatively bad recovery.

As for Pika chain grabs... idk maybe your opponents % was too high, either that or you just messed up the cg.

Jon · 08-30-2009, 05:33 PM

spam him. Ike can't deal with smart spam
study up on Ike's playstyle a bit and u'll find a big hole

as for kirby, Gonzo Combo, b-air, and gimp :B

Lady GaGa · 08-30-2009, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by Folm

As for Pika chain grabs... idk maybe your opponents % was too high, either that or you just messed up the cg.

Just to add, because you said that he was avoiding them before you could start, maybe you're approach is too predicatable.

If you want the CG to work more, wait for him to approach with a SH f-air or n-air like all ikes love to, then OoS grab him.

Folm gave some really good advice. Ike outranges Pika, and if you continuously run at him, he will continue to hit you. Use your neutral B and make him approach you, then counter. Also, I'm pretty sure Pika's aerials are fast enough, so try getting him in the air. Nooby or overly-aggressive Ike's will d-air, which is slow and predicatable, so let them have it with a down-B, or jump up there and juggle them. If they don't try to avoid you on the way down, they will usually use a falling n-air, so sheild and counter that. Also, as said by folm, gimp him and his crappy recovery.

Haven · 08-30-2009, 05:36 PM

Character I am using: Ban-Hammer
Matchup-Metaknight

I need help with this matchup guys... Every time I try to swing the ban-hammer at MK these group of n00b's that think MK deserves protection blocks my Hammer, saying things like "He's not that bad", and "He's a character on the roster", and "A character has never been banned in brawl before" It should be in my favor but I fail at it because of these people. Help please? =(

Lol

For Ike spam ALOT, seriously it works sooooo well. CG, Gimp, Camp and play defensive and you got Ike right there.

For Kirby A lot of B-air's and overwhelm him with speed, also go for F-air and B-air gimps and stuff like that for the early kill.

Jon · 08-30-2009, 05:40 PM

lol @ Haven repeating what i said

BTW MK is impervious seeing as 60% of the competiteve smash community at least uses him as a secondary.

Haven · 08-30-2009, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by Jon

lol @ Haven repeating what i said

BTW MK is impervious seeing as 60% of the competiteve smash community at least uses him as a secondary.

Lol that's the matchup against Ike, seriously! XD

oyes, MK is 2overused.

We must fight him with Snack and Diddeh People!

Jon · 08-30-2009, 05:47 PM

but Diddeh is 2gay D:
and yeah i know lol. how am i not gonna know my own mains matchups? XD

also, Ally keeps raping M2K too hard for MK to be banned lol

Lady GaGa · 08-30-2009, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by Haven

Lol that's the matchup against Ike, seriously! XD

oyes, MK is 2overused.

We must fight him with Ice Climbers.

Jon · 08-30-2009, 05:57 PM

Lain phan?

it wouldnt work.
u could CG for a while i guess, but Nana WILL get raped and the desync just sucks ass

Folm · 08-30-2009, 06:01 PM

^False

MK vs. IC is a 50/50 matchup. Ive seen Lain beat M2K. Blizzard wall works well and cg will rape any char.

Lady GaGa · 08-30-2009, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by Jon

Lain phan?

it wouldnt work.
u could CG for a while i guess, but Nana WILL get raped and the desync just sucks ass

lmao just picked a random chracter >_<

srsly, we don't want snake to develop an even better metagame... find someone else.

Although now that i think about it, i think they have potential... just gotta protect Nana

EDIT: agrees with mr. folm.


08-30-2009, 10:48 AM	#109 (permalink)
Turbopikachu Pokemon Breeder NC Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: NC Posts: 197 Total Awards: 4 Friend Codes	Character: Pikachu/Kirby Opponent: Ike Problem: Attack power. I try to land attacks on Ike, but if he uses an attack at the same time, whether I'm Pika or Kirby, his move will overpower mine and I will get sent flying. I want to know how to get Ike before he can get me. Also, I am failing to pull off any good Pika-chaingrabs on Ike. Somehow, he evades before I can start one. __________________


08-30-2009, 05:33 PM	#111 (permalink)
Jon Jack of all trades Vegas ;D Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Vegas ;D Posts: 1,510 Total Awards: 8 Friend Codes	spam him. Ike can't deal with smart spam study up on Ike's playstyle a bit and u'll find a big hole as for kirby, Gonzo Combo, b-air, and gimp :B __________________ How much stronger must I become to protect those I care for?


08-30-2009, 05:36 PM	#113 (permalink)
Haven Fighting gamer New York Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: New York Posts: 1,058 Total Awards: 14 Friend Codes	Character I am using: Ban-Hammer Matchup-Metaknight I need help with this matchup guys... Every time I try to swing the ban-hammer at MK these group of n00b's that think MK deserves protection blocks my Hammer, saying things like "He's not that bad", and "He's a character on the roster", and "A character has never been banned in brawl before" It should be in my favor but I fail at it because of these people. Help please? =( Lol For Ike spam ALOT, seriously it works sooooo well. CG, Gimp, Camp and play defensive and you got Ike right there. For Kirby A lot of B-air's and overwhelm him with speed, also go for F-air and B-air gimps and stuff like that for the early kill. __________________


08-30-2009, 05:40 PM	#114 (permalink)
Jon Jack of all trades Vegas ;D Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Vegas ;D Posts: 1,510 Total Awards: 8 Friend Codes	lol @ Haven repeating what i said BTW MK is impervious seeing as 60% of the competiteve smash community at least uses him as a secondary. __________________ How much stronger must I become to protect those I care for?


08-30-2009, 05:47 PM	#116 (permalink)
Jon Jack of all trades Vegas ;D Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Vegas ;D Posts: 1,510 Total Awards: 8 Friend Codes	but Diddeh is 2gay D: and yeah i know lol. how am i not gonna know my own mains matchups? XD also, Ally keeps raping M2K too hard for MK to be banned lol __________________ How much stronger must I become to protect those I care for?


08-30-2009, 03:02 PM	#110 (permalink)
Folm Inactive until I get Wifi NJ Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 408 Total Awards: 7 Friend Codes	Well of course the ike will over power you because his sword is a disjointed hitbox. Spam pika's Tjolt and make him approach. Lots of ikes like to approach with a double jumped Fair which gets so predicable so learn to punish that. Pika and Kirby have good recoveries so if the Ike gets off stage... dont let him back on, he has relatively bad recovery. As for Pika chain grabs... idk maybe your opponents % was too high, either that or you just messed up the cg.


08-30-2009, 05:57 PM	#118 (permalink)
Jon Jack of all trades Vegas ;D Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Vegas ;D Posts: 1,510 Total Awards: 8 Friend Codes	Lain phan? it wouldnt work. u could CG for a while i guess, but Nana WILL get raped and the desync just sucks ass __________________ How much stronger must I become to protect those I care for?


08-30-2009, 06:01 PM	#119 (permalink)
Folm Inactive until I get Wifi NJ Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 408 Total Awards: 7 Friend Codes	^False MK vs. IC is a 50/50 matchup. Ive seen Lain beat M2K. Blizzard wall works well and cg will rape any char.