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Old 10-26-2008, 12:27 AM   #1
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Rate this team :O

This has been working wonders in shoddy when it gets set up, it can work on any pokemon in the team to.


Ninjask @ Leftovers
EVS: 252 SPEED/ 252 ATTACK/ 4 HP
Jolly
-Baton Pass (Its a must for the set up)
-Swords Dance (Sets up next poke nicely)
-X-Scizor/Protect?
-Substitute (baton pass behind this to get no damage)

Ninjask, the awesome leader. Sets up everything for the next pokemon, if max attack and speed are set up its GG, specially if weavile gets all this. Nothing can outrun it.


Weavile @ Expert Belt
EVs: 252 SPEED/ 252 ATTACK/ 4 HP
Adamant
-Night Slash (Goes for crits, ghosts)
-Ice Punch (dragons, stab, grass, flying, etc.)
-Brick Break (Blissey, normal fighting types, t tar)
-Aerial Ace (Whatever the others dont get)

Pretty standard, running adamant since the speed boosts give it high speed anyway. I want to go in stronger and get x2 on everything since I have expert belt on, main threat is bulky gyrados.


Empoleon @ Life Orb
EVs: 252 HP/ 252 ATTACK/ 4 SPEED
Adamant
-Aqua Jet (First Strike)
-Brick Break (Blissey, normal types)
-Waterfall (Heatran, fires, whatever earthquake doesnt hit, stab)
-Earthquake (hits everything the others dont)

This little beauty is the second option of ninjask's setup, with the speed and attack with its bulkyness this thing is just pwnage. With 12 resistences it can come in from any time and take a few pokes, Aqua Jet there for Mach Punch infernape, finishing off. Takes a T-Bolt and then just charges up even more with its ability Torrent.


Suicine @ Leftovers
Evs: 252 speed/ 252 sp attk/ 4 def
Modest
-Calm Mind
-Surf (STAB)
-Hidden Power (Electric, takes out bulky waters)
-Ice beam

This guy can set up himself and sweep, can absorb scarf/specs heatran and comes back with a calm mind while they switch. Pwns all after 3 calm minds, takes vaporeon of suprise with Hidden Power electric as its used to Ice beam and Surf.


Heatran @ Choice Specs
EVs: 252 SPEED/ 252 SP ATTK/ 4 HP
Modest
-Fire Blast
-Hidden Power Grass
-Earth Power
-Dragon Pulse

Covers everything, the main special attacker of this team. Late game sweeper and helps out if the start of the match fails.


Blissey @ Leftovers
EVS: 252 DEF/ 252 HP/ 4 SP ATTK
Bold
-Counter
-Flamethrower
-Wish
-Protect

WishBliss, holds the team up. Can heal other pokes if needed, flamethrower for forretress, or can use counter to pwn other pokes and do alot of damage. Aromatherapy to heal para hax, sleep, poisons on the team and herself, Wish and protect is the standard so it doesnt die as soon as it attacks. I can take a hit from weavile and bounce back with a counter and kill it.

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So what do ya think, the start of the team mainly has a mixape weakness but it outruns mixape so it cant attack them anyway. If I cant get a Swords dance up I run into trouble.. But the speed boosts for weavile still help and I can try and set up empoleon late game to sweep.
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Old 10-26-2008, 01:13 AM   #2
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Holy dang Jima. If you weren't hard to beat before, you sure are now. I would never want to face this team, but it looks like I'm headed for it eventually.......

2 questions:
Where did you get that Blissey?

How do the IVs look on that team?
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Old 10-26-2008, 01:40 AM   #3
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Oh its a shoddy set, you can get any moves from any games as long as they learn it.

And 31 ivs in every stat if you want, its a site where you test teams getting them ready for D/P.

You can get any platinum move aswell.

This is a team I might make in D/P.
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Oh, so you don't have it yet.

(-sigh of relief-)
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Old 10-26-2008, 03:55 AM   #5
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Well, I registered at Shoddy, and there's nobody there.....
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Old 10-26-2008, 07:46 AM   #6
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Okay 3 things. Ninjask can't out speed lead Deoxys-S, it has 504 speed while Ninjask has 460 before a Speed Boost so watch out for it's Taunts (I'm not sure if protect blocks Taunt or not). And 2, I don't think Wish and Aromatherapy are allowed on the same set. Wish is an event move while Aromatherapy is an egg move. And there's a pretty big Fighting weakness but I guess that with Speed Boosts and Swords Dances you'll be okay.

Overall it's a pretty solid team. I want to face this so badly.
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Old 10-26-2008, 09:28 AM   #7
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It's impossible to have Wish and Aromatherapy...

Since the chansey comes in an egg, once you hatch it, it knows wish. There's NOTHING you can do to make it learn Aromatherapy =/
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Old 10-26-2008, 10:25 AM   #8
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This has been working wonders in shoddy when it gets set up, it can work on any pokemon in the team to.


Ninjask @ Leftovers
EVS: 252 SPEED/ 252 ATTACK/ 4 HP
Jolly
-Baton Pass (Its a must for the set up)
-Swords Dance (Sets up next poke nicely)
-Protect (Gets a few speed boosts up with substitute)
-Substitute (baton pass behind this to get no damage)

Ninjask, the awesome leader. Sets up everything for the next pokemon, if max attack and speed are set up its GG, specially if weavile gets all this. Nothing can outrun it.

As much as I think Ninjask is really really really obvious this is the basic set so not much to say here. Usually the main response to this thing is to constantly attack it so Ninjask doesn't have a enough time to set up a sword dance or a sub. So don't get your hopes to pass an Sword Dance (mainly why scizor is better)


Weavile @ Expert Belt
EVs: 252 SPEED/ 252 ATTACK/ 4 HP
Adamant
-Night Slash (Goes for crits, ghosts)
-Ice Punch (dragons, stab, grass, flying, etc.)
-Brick Break (Blissey, normal fighting types, t tar)
-Aerial Ace (Whatever the others dont get)

Pretty standard, running adamant since the speed boosts give it high speed anyway. I want to go in stronger and get x2 on everything since I have expert belt on, main threat is bulky gyrados.

Terrible synergy with Ninjask. What are people going to hit ninjask with? yeah fire. Good luck baton passing with an infernape breathing down your neck. Why are you giving sword dance passes(if your lucky enough to get one) when you can just not run the risk and use a sword dance weavile. BTW a fast weavile is sort of pointless since weavile is fast already. Try passing to a bulky sweeper like Machamp.


Empoleon @ Life Orb
EVs: 252 HP/ 252 ATTACK/ 4 SPEED
Adamant
-Aqua Jet (First Strike)
-Brick Break (Blissey, normal types)
-Waterfall (Heatran, fires, whatever earthquake doesnt hit, stab)
-Earthquake (hits everything the others dont)

This little beauty is the second option of ninjask's setup, with the speed and attack with its bulkyness this thing is just pwnage. With 12 resistences it can come in from any time and take a few pokes, Aqua Jet there for Mach Punch infernape, finishing off. Takes a T-Bolt and then just charges up even more with its ability Torrent.

You're giving empoleon speed already? Then replace Aqua Jet with Sword Dance that set can be deadly.


Suicine @ Leftovers
Evs: 252 speed/ 252 sp attk/ 4 def
Modest
-Calm Mind
-Surf (STAB)
-Hidden Power (Electric, takes out bulky waters)
-Ice beam

This guy can set up himself and sweep, can absorb scarf/specs heatran and comes back with a calm mind while they switch. Pwns all after 3 calm minds, takes vaporeon of suprise with Hidden Power electric as its used to Ice beam and Surf.

Good luck finding a decent modest hp electric suicune >.> Having toxic spikes and SR out then having suicune use roar is better imo but whatever xP


Heatran @ Choice Specs
EVs: 252 SPEED/ 252 SP ATTK/ 4 HP
Modest
-Fire Blast
-Hidden Power Grass
-Earth Power
-Dragon Pulse

Covers everything, the main special attacker of this team. Late game sweeper and helps out if the start of the match fails.

Standard Set not much to say. If someone plans to hit ninjask or weavile with a fire attack switch to get flash fire activated. Your Ninjask should pass to this thing and empoleon instead of weavile. Good synergy with Ninjask.Heatran weak to fighting ground and water but covers fire. Ninjask covers fighting and ground but is weak to fire.


Blissey @ Leftovers
EVS: 252 DEF/ 252 HP/ 4 SP ATTK
Bold
-Aromatherapy
-Flmethrower/Counter
-Wish
-Protect

WishBliss, holds the team up. Can heal other pokes if needed, flamethrower for forretress, or can use counter to pwn other pokes and do alot of damage. Aromatherapy to heal para hax, sleep, poisons on the team and herself, Wish and protect is the standard so it doesnt die as soon as it attacks. Switching bliss in when I am getting swept by a jolteon or something helps.

Impossible to have those two moves together.

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So what do ya think, the start of the team mainly has a mixape weakness but it outruns mixape so it cant attack them anyway. If I cant get a Swords dance up I run into trouble.. But the speed boosts for weavile still help and I can try and set up empoleon late game to sweep.
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4/6 of your team is dinner for Infernape or any physical fighting attacker for that matter.Dugtrio can revenge kill most of your team. Heracross says hi too. 4/6 of your team is walled by Skarmory and ironically 4/6 of your team is walled by Blissey.

I would say 6-7/10 needs some work

Just a note: I'm harsh with all my RMTs don't think it's personal xD
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Yah.

I realised blissey cant learn both, so I am putting counter on instead.

This team is for leads like bronzong who set up rocks while i get a substitute up and get a swords dance.

Weavile at an adamant nature relies on speed boosts so it can outrun jolteon, Jollyweavile, scarftran.

Empoleon packs quite a punch if you set it up right, and takes out infernape early after 1 SD from ninjask and waterfall.

I am thinking about putting a pokemon in there which is pwnage: MixJolteon.

If I can set up 2-3 sword dances for Jolteon its GG, nothing can stop it as its got high 300-400 attack and special moves.
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Old 10-26-2008, 03:26 PM   #10
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Ninjask @ Leftovers
EVS: 252 SPEED/ 252 ATTACK/ 4 HP
Jolly
-Baton Pass (Its a must for the set up)
-Swords Dance (Sets up next poke nicely)
-X-Scizor/Protect?
-Substitute (baton pass behind this to get no damage)

Ninjask, the awesome leader. Sets up everything for the next pokemon, if max attack and speed are set up its GG, specially if weavile gets all this. Nothing can outrun it.

1 protect makes ninjask too fast for anything. only real threat i can see here is a lead with a first stike move especially ice shard (1ice shard from a decent mamoswine will prob 1HKO it. but overwise a good lead pkmn here.ok a good lead (for the people that say a taunting speed deoxys would stop it, it wouldnt

Weavile @ Expert Belt
EVs: 252 SPEED/ 252 ATTACK/ 4 HP
Adamant
-Night Slash (Goes for crits, ghosts)
-Ice Punch (dragons, stab, grass, flying, etc.)
-Brick Break (Blissey, normal fighting types, t tar)
-Aerial Ace (Whatever the others dont get)

Pretty standard, running adamant since the speed boosts give it high speed anyway. I want to go in stronger and get x2 on everything since I have expert belt on, main threat is bulky gyrados.

ok like u said main problem my b a gyarados, also i would perfer a focus sash ova the belt, coz then u will at least get a shot on somthing with a first stike move like bullet punch. but still a very good sweeper for any1
Empoleon @ Life Orb
EVs: 252 HP/ 252 ATTACK/ 4 SPEED
Adamant
-Aqua Jet (First Strike)
-Brick Break (Blissey, normal types)
-Waterfall (Heatran, fires, whatever earthquake doesnt hit, stab)
-Earthquake (hits everything the others dont)

This little beauty is the second option of ninjask's setup, with the speed and attack with its bulkyness this thing is just pwnage. With 12 resistences it can come in from any time and take a few pokes, Aqua Jet there for Mach Punch infernape, finishing off. Takes a T-Bolt and then just charges up even more with its ability Torrent.

not many people expect to battle an empoleon on wifi so this may b a good shock. with ninjasks help it could b a possible sweep, but only with help...

Suicine @ Leftovers
Evs: 252 speed/ 252 sp attk/ 4 def
Modest
-Calm Mind
-Surf (STAB)
-Hidden Power (Electric, takes out bulky waters)
-Ice beam

This guy can set up himself and sweep, can absorb scarf/specs heatran and comes back with a calm mind while they switch. Pwns all after 3 calm minds, takes vaporeon of suprise with Hidden Power electric as its used to Ice beam and Surf.

simple suicune here not much to talk about really....

Heatran @ Choice Specs
EVs: 252 SPEED/ 252 SP ATTK/ 4 HP
Modest
-Fire Blast
-Hidden Power Grass
-Earth Power
-Dragon Pulse

Covers everything, the main special attacker of this team. Late game sweeper and helps out if the start of the match fails.

same again a standerd heatran, i would perfer choice scarf but specs do the job too.....Blissey @ Leftovers
EVS: 252 DEF/ 252 HP/ 4 SP ATTK
Bold
-Counter
-Flamethrower
-Wish
-Protect

WishBliss, holds the team up. Can heal other pokes if needed, flamethrower for forretress, or can use counter to pwn other pokes and do alot of damage. Aromatherapy to heal para hax, sleep, poisons on the team and herself, Wish and protect is the standard so it doesnt die as soon as it attacks. I can take a hit from weavile and bounce back with a counter and kill it.

now this is very nice, yes the moves arnt possible on D/P but on smogon it is. this bliss would annoy almost any1 against it, so a big thumbs up from me here.
well i hope i helped u jima

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Yah.

I realised blissey cant learn both, so I am putting counter on instead.

This team is for leads like bronzong who set up rocks while i get a substitute up and get a swords dance.

Weavile at an adamant nature relies on speed boosts so it can outrun jolteon, Jollyweavile, scarftran.

Empoleon packs quite a punch if you set it up right, and takes out infernape early after 1 SD from ninjask and waterfall.

I am thinking about putting a pokemon in there which is pwnage: MixJolteon.

If I can set up 2-3 sword dances for Jolteon its GG, nothing can stop it as its got high 300-400 attack and special moves.

Ok just completely ignore what I said O.o
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Old 10-27-2008, 02:22 PM   #12
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Jima your team = serious pwnage. 5.5/6
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