Why quick claw

[greetest]

I am jst a noob asking questions but not really looking for an answer im looking for opinions. I want to know why is Quick claw and Focus band band. I HONESTLY DONT KNOW OR SEE WHY.

I want to see others opinion on this topic. Do they believe it is a good reason. what is your reason. In my honest opinion there is nothing wrong with those items no items is really that bad.

i think that quick claw is a chance jst like dynamic punch or super sonic these are chance moves its a chance which was suppose to be apart of the game don't you think.

Do you think Nintendo would want Quick claw n its other items that have chance to be band.

P.S why is quick claw "Band" in the first place honestly i don't knw

[Kenpari]

They are banned because they are items based on chance, and it's just not really fair. Quick Claw gives a chance to move first and Focus Band gives a chance to hold on, no matter you HP before you were hit. It's just not fair when it activates, especially quick claw.

Also, Nintendo generally goes by what everybody here on the internet that does competitive battling does.

And why are you making comparisons to moves like Dynamic Punch? There are a lot of moves that only have a certain accuracy. That's chance, but it's still different. They aren't items like this that can give an unfair advantage. Moves with chance are completely different.

Compared to other items, things like Quick Claw and Focus Band are unfair. Items like Life Orb and Leftovers aren't really all that unfair.

[Splodey]

Quick Claw can eliminate all the work somebody put in during a battle. For example. Your opponent has a Gyarados with 3 DDs up. You don't have any priority users, but you have a quick claw. You send out your Electivire equipped with a Quick Claw and you OHKO it with T-Punch because by chance it activated. That's unfair because your opponent obviously had to work to get those 3 DDs, and now the battle may end differently because of a stupid hax item.

[Sleddog]

its band because they are chance items also quick claw is band because people will over use it on slow strong pokemon and they will go first and crush everything

[Kayla.Corpse]

man that would suck so bad using 3 dds and quickclaw ruined it :S i never knew quickclaw could do that

and the life orb is SO unfair.

[NoJ]

Basically concluding everyones statement, and putting a little bit of my jazz in here

The metagame in pokemon is trying to focus more on skill and less on luck. The Quick claw, a luck item, ruins the game and could change the outcome of a battle very quickly. Not fair to the player that is playing the game fairly and want to win with skill and items that are fair such as choice specs/band/scarf, leftovers, life orbs and etc.

[greetest]

Originally Posted by Splodey Quick Claw can eliminate all the work somebody put in during a battle. For example. Your opponent has a Gyarados with 3 DDs up. You don't have any priority users, but you have a quick claw. You send out your Electivire equipped with a Quick Claw and you OHKO it with T-Punch because by chance it activated. That's unfair because your opponent obviously had to work to get those 3 DDs, and now the battle may end differently because of a stupid hax item.

There is still chance in it quick claw doesn't work all the time Nor does focus band. and there is always chance that the attack will miss. Why is double team not allowed. The facts that a move is not allow because it makes the attacks miss is really well stupid. Another part of the game that has a lot of strategy. That is another chance thing if the move hits or misses. Why is this not incorporated in the game because people think chance shouldn't be used doesn't that mean your not using your skills to the max. I mean a little chance or luck shouldn't beat the best of the best you should be prepared. When i play bleach on wii or psp or DBZ T3 there are items there. im prepared for any character even if i didn't see the fighting before.

Basically what im saying is because a item has a chance factor doesn't mean it is wrong. Man up or lady up to the skill factor and be prepared for people.

its just like how people tell me to do this and this with my scizor and n.p great advice but, when i have different moves people don't see coming there like wow i didn't expect that because i was prepared for the common. With no chance things will always be common.

Originally Posted by Kenpari They are banned because they are items based on chance, and it's just not really fair. Quick Claw gives a chance to move first and Focus Band gives a chance to hold on, no matter you HP before you were hit. It's just not fair when it activates, especially quick claw. Also, Nintendo generally goes by what everybody here on the internet that does competitive battling does. And why are you making comparisons to moves like Dynamic Punch? There are a lot of moves that only have a certain accuracy. That's chance, but it's still different. They aren't items like this that can give an unfair advantage. Moves with chance are completely different. Compared to other items, things like Quick Claw and Focus Band are unfair. Items like Life Orb and Leftovers aren't really all that unfair.

The Key word in the sentences is a chance, there you go. In any game don't you think luck is a factor. Like if You are playing street fighter (Common game) and you do with Hado-ken with Ryu on purpose but the opponent M.Bison (Vega) Teleport by mistake while he was trying to simply hold a move it has happen to me many times i save my self but not skills but luck my hand slipping slightly it was luck sometimes you get lucky doing a move before another person. ITS Luck -(an unknown and unpredictable phenomenon that leads to a favorable outcome) that is similar to chance the items can't be controlled its all luck.

Chance and luck have very close meanings. depending on which you look at please some1 tell me there opinion on this.

# opportunity: a possibility due to a favorable combination of circumstances; "the holiday gave us the opportunity to visit Washington"; "now is your chance"
# luck: an unknown and unpredictable phenomenon that causes an event to result one way rather than another; "bad luck caused his downfall"; "we ran into each other by pure chance"

[Chaddy]

In all honesty, it shouldn't even matter. They're items in the game... use them at will.

[greetest]

Originally Posted by Chaddy In all honesty, it shouldn't even matter. They're items in the game... use them at will.

THANK GOD im not the only one who thinks that lol sorry jst had to say that

[gamer22]

the point is noone likes hax items no skill at all

it can cost them a battle just because of the luck

if you want to battle someone with hax items then let them know

if you hate rules then just follow vgc rules or make up your own rules lol

[greetest]

Originally Posted by gamer22 the point is noone likes hax items no skill at all it can cost them a battle just because of the luck if you want to battle someone with hax items then let them know if you hate rules then just follow vgc rules or make up your own rules lol

lol its nothing like that we are just wondering why? i mean honestly are you saying with out these items there is no luck at all involved in the game seriously

[Awsomegamer99]

Originally Posted by greetest THANK GOD im not the only one who thinks that lol sorry jst had to say that

Well......im not to judge,but your right,there ITEMS! use them,but the rules STILL APPLY.
you may use 1 Quick Claw in your party,as well as 1 of any of those "Banned" items, but DONT get TOO many of the SAME items in a Party! last time i battled someone,HE USED MORE THAN 2 LEFTOVERS IN THE PARTY! Dont you agree there is Good,AND Bad depending on the items?