Confused about clauses ? Not anymore !

[Andrea]

Originally Posted by Outlawed Alright Andy! Sweet guide, I think this should be stuckenz0rs lol any who, erm, I don't believe Deoxys-S is still Uber, not sure though.

Originally Posted by The Mole Actually if you check the tiers list which I kindly posted in the Pokemon battles section, you will see Deoxys-S is OU

Yup, you guys were both right, so from now on ill just put the link to the Mole's thread for ubers .

Originally Posted by Ray I also made a clause list in the battle section >_>

Sorry about that Ray, nothing came up when i searched =[. Is it still up ?

[MilkMan]

Nice.
Could you edit these bits please

unsure on this one
'HAX' Items: usually this means hacked item and the seperate clause 'Chance Items' is used for chance items. in the list of chance items brightpowder and scope lens are not considered chance items. i think they should be but there not.
these are defently real
Hacked pokémon Clause: No hacked pokémon on your team

Freeze Clause: no two pokémon can be frozen on the same team at any one time.
This clause is dodgy because if you where to freeze the foe then they switched out you shouldn't take the risk of using ice beam/punch again or any move induices freeze.

Evasion clause: pokémon can not use moves such as double team/minimize or moves that lower opponents accuracy such as sand attack/mud slap. mover that lower the foe's evasion stat are allowed. these moves are defog and sweet scent.


And i invent a clause
Wobbufet Clause: No wobbufets in your team.

this pokémon is really nasty and will kill pokémon with out a problem and since he has been move from UBER to OU there should be a cluase to prevent the use of him.

[xenux]

The main clauses which is really followed in Standard battles are Sleepclause, Species clause, OHKOclause, Evasion clause or Hax Item clause, Uber clause.

Item clause is not really belong to the standard rules.
Its just mainly use for i dunno.

[dr00dile]

wobbuffet's now an uber again, so no need for wobbuffet clause, though i quite like it a lot and maybe we should add it to the uber clause lol ;D



also there's a set-damage clause, that most people i used to play with used, but i guess it isn't as common as i thought.
set-damage moves such as night shade, seismic toss, dragon rage, sonic boom, super fang would fall under this and no allowed.

again, it seems it's not that common, so if you do add it in, maybe add it to a section of uncommon clauses.

[The Mole]

I still disagree about Wobba, I don't think he can be consider Uber, but meh what do I know.

[dr00dile]

i don't think he really fits anywhere honestly. he's sort of like evasion. not really overly powerful, but just enough that if it's out there, every team has to figure a way to counter it, so might as well just remove it.

and in ubers i doubt he does very much



on a good note, i'm glad speed deoxys is in OU now though. i have a nice one that's just been sitting in the box. now that i can, i really want to fit him into a team lol.

[The Mole]

What was that sorry?

Deoxys Speed is in OU all other forms of Deoxys are Uber.

[Andrea]

Okay, thanks to everyone again who contributed. I have now edited the first post adding the extra information and changing the mistakes you have given me.

[frigotyiuw]

Originally Posted by The Mole I still disagree about Wobba, I don't think he can be consider Uber, but meh what do I know.

Didn't the tiers update and Wob isn't considered an Uber any more, he's falls into the OU tier? He's annoying and cheap, but he's not game breaking.

[Andrea]

If you read the Mole's post again, he's actually saying that Wobuffet is NOT an uber anymore lol.

[The Mole]

No no that was before I found out Wobbs IS uber again

[dr00dile]

Originally Posted by frigotyiuw Didn't the tiers update and Wob isn't considered an Uber any more, he's falls into the OU tier? He's annoying and cheap, but he's not game breaking.

it changed back.


lol wobbuffet is always causing trouble.
i vote for wobbuffet clause to clear up this nonsense altogether