Gym Simplicity

[The Mole]

Right guys, I need your help here.

The gyms, as they are, aare dull boring and don't really encourage activity.

I want to bring simplicity back, but want your input on how this should be run.

My current idea is this:

6 gym leaders, all with a trainer. You beat the trainer, advance to leader to win badge and repeat through all gyms.

Following on from this, we then have 2-4 elites. All will solely be on there own and defending the passage to the champion.

Once through these a champion will be installed and will stay there until someone beats him.

Thoughts, suggestions etc. I wanna know what you want from this place.

[TRICOURAGE]

Well, the four elites sounds good. But if you only have a gym leader and trainer, then that makes these things like you only need one member of a gym.

My suggestion is to go back to the old challenge system and mabye add the elite four. I wasnt around for very long but with all the challengers I got before my gym opened I think it would work.

EDIT:Oh, and whats going to happen to cut gyms, because there are 9 open. Closing them to make a challenge would work, unless you made the challenge seprate, can let the gyms operate as clans.

[The Mole]

With this, gyms wouldn't have members, only challengers, allowing everyone the chance to challenge for everything. Obviously the leaders would not be able to challenge as they would need to defend their gyms, whereas should a trainer wish to do so, they are able to leave their gym and allow the leader to bring in a new trainer to cover this.

I haven't fully decided how this would work right now, as I want all your input in to it. I want to make this as exciting, challenging, and active as possible, this is all I want right now and it is something that the current system lacks.

[TRICOURAGE]

Originally Posted by The Mole With this, gyms wouldn't have members, only challengers, allowing everyone the chance to challenge for everything. Obviously the leaders would not be able to challenge as they would need to defend their gyms, whereas should a trainer wish to do so, they are able to leave their gym and allow the leader to bring in a new trainer to cover this. I haven't fully decided how this would work right now, as I want all your input in to it. I want to make this as exciting, challenging, and active as possible, this is all I want right now and it is something that the current system lacks.

Then you could go ahead and take me out of this. If I'm not able to talk to the members of my gym and do givaways and such then I'll leave the section. I dont like this idea of making this section all challenges and no members. I think it would dull the section up fast in my opion. If you do run this system I think you should at least allow the gyms to have members, but the members can challenges other gyms as well as there own. Like I said I just like the clan fell to be in this system. But thats one mans opinion.

PS:If The Mole sees this and you havent already check your trade thread soon. Dont want to rush you but you might not notice the new posts.

[The Mole]

Originally Posted by tricourage Then you could go ahead and take me out of this. If I'm not able to talk to the members of my gym and do givaways and such then I'll leave the section. I dont like this idea of making this section all challenges and no members. I think it would dull the section up fast in my opion. If you do run this system I think you should at least allow the gyms to have members, but the members can challenges other gyms as well as there own. Like I said I just like the clan fell to be in this system. But thats one mans opinion.

The problem with this is that members currently don't really want to participate in getting anything done for their gym and are basically free-loading off the leaders to get free stuff and what not. You go through any gym that has challengers and you will notice that most of them are open challengers because no member of the gym wishes to battle that challenger.

The current system is overcomplicated and underused, I want to move away from this.

I'm not saying I'm totally against the idea, I'd just like to move away from it and make it so people are actually challenging for stuff.

[TRICOURAGE]

My final post here, I promise:

If that is the case(which I didnt realize) then change to a system like this is needed. Now I still think that if members could just hang around a certain gym and still be able to chanlenge for badges as awards, that would work great. Just turning this into challenges is a turn for the worse IMO. I stick by having clans(or gyms) and having the challenge system over that. I think that would work.

[The Mole]

I would have absolutely nothing against members hanging around any particular gym, it encourages activity in all of them. The badges would definately be still there too, I would not take these away from anyone, people deserve the recognition for defeating a gym leader!

[ShadowBlade]

Guud, guud.

Only thing I'd say would be to not make the gyms ordered. For example, you play dr00 as a leader first then you play lefties as the second gym leader etc. Because then dr00 gets bombarded with tons of trainers which makes it hard for him and might cause him to ignore challenges (this is a problem I see in all of the leagues I've been in). Then people just give up on challenging. So we should make it scattered like we have it ATM.

Otherwise, I think it sounds great. :3

I think it's very obvious that clan type gyms don't work out at all, like teh mole said.

[Luffy15]

I agree with both Tri as well as the Mole. I know that the clan type gym isn't working out and it would be best to change it. I like the idea the Mole has since it will make things easier and faster. But I would also like to be part of a gym in which I can talk to other members, have tournaments with in the gym, and giveaways. So, I was thinking if we could add another section (Like a clan section) members could join a gym/clan just to talk, giveways, tournaments with in the clan. The challenges ofcorse would be in a different section.

I think this would make both sides happy with the pokemon section, but I might be wrong.

[Shwheelz]

As long as people can still "hang around" a gym, I'm not opposed to this idea. ShadowBlade is 100% correct with his idea imo. And in response to Luffy's concern, I don't know if it is a good idea to make Pokeclans, rather, gyms could possibly hold their own tournaments for a prize or possibly its badge, and keep it open to all of Nintendo Pals. Giveaways can be kept in the giveaway forum. Screw Clan giveaways, if someone wants to share a Pokemon, why not spread it across the whole community? I very much like this new system The Mole has thought out (four elites and a champion would make it more "game-like").

Just an idea, to increase activity in gym challenges, leaders could have a prize Pokemon that challengers win if they defeat the leader. The prize could change every week or two.

Tbh, my gym has been quite inactive lately, and when someone does post, it's usually just spam in some way or another. It's not often that we discuss battle strategy or anything like that. Sure we do help each other with the little things, but the questions can stay in the Simple Q&A Thread and the small trades (Does anyone have TM such-and-such they could give me) can stay amongst friends and profile comments.

I'm all for the new system. Let me know what you think of my ideas.

[y0bL0!125]

I support Mole's idea for the 6 gyms to be the ONLY gyms. But badges like Jima's unobtainable badge would be lost. The lost badges should be given a new leader (unless they want the gym back) OR the Elite 4 (or however much there are) be made the new holders. Also, the gyms should have 3 members (one leader and two members). This gives the gym trainers space to not be bombarded with challenges and the leader to defend the winners. Leaders to trust 2 people isnt hard, and the others will sadly be let go. The themes are a good foundation and should not be dismissed. This tests the striving champions to work harder to be the best.

[gamer22]

well im close to being poke champs

i like the idea of an elite 4

and at least 5 member in a gym and one leader sounds good